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About Quiz #406: 1903 M.M.C. 20 H.P

In last week's Quiz we showed the chassis of a new 1903 20 H.P. M.M.C. as displayed by the Motor Manufacturing Company at the Islington Motor - Car Show of March 1903. This picture shows the "new type of honeycomb radiator, of special design and having extra large cooling surface by reason of the fact that the surface of each of the pipes is fluted." The car's description adds... "This vehicle has a reinforced wood frame of very evident strength and rigidity."

There are two types of ignition, principally the Eismann high-tension magneto and "on the opposite side of the engine another set of sparking plugs is fitted in conjunction with a high tension system of ignition, with contact-breaker carried on the end of the half-time shaft and in front of the motor." The other use for the gears visible in front of the engine is to drive the water pump which was correctly named by jury member Ariejan Bos who sent in the only answer. He also correctly identified the source of our picture as 'The Car Illustrated' but wrongly guessed it was a 1903/4 Elswick which had an ingenious 2-speed ventilator which used a sort of cycle hub to change speed and may well have explained one of the visible gear drives in the picture. We thank Ariejan for his Elswick knowledge, but no winner this week, better luck next week.
 

Originally published on October 30th, 2015

 

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woensdag juni 26th, 2024
Onbekend
31 October 2015, 21:54
Dear Robin - I certainly am glad to have added these images to my archive, but I'd rather see this quiz to be a challenge for all PWC-visitors and not only for jury members. Nevertheless I'm already looking forward to the next mystery!
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Robin Batchelor
31 October 2015, 21:14
[quote name="Ariejan Bos"]I must say, that I'm slightly disappointed by the outcome of this quiz.[/quote]

Ariejan - we are sorry to disappoint you, but we hope we have added to your already encylopaedic knowledge of cars from the veteran era.
The car shown is a 10 HP model which shared the[i] new honeycomb radiator[/i] with the 20 HP model - a detail we hoped would guide readers to discover MMC.
We believe it was poet John Lydgate who famously uttered the words...
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.
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Henry Lawson
25 Juni 2024, 23:18
Hi Robin. Sorry to be 9 years late to comment but as the owner of the sole surviving 20HP MMC, the four cylinders are indeed confirmation of the fact that this is a 20HP. Our car is identical to this, and the dual ignition is a boon - I describe it as multiple 'get out of jail free' cards! Once, before dawn, preparing for the London to Brighton, as I passed Buckingham Palace I wanted to test the two ignition systems. Sure enough the tremblers were not working but as I switched the magnetos back on the petrol in the exhaust exploded and blew the silencer to pieces with an enormous bang! I still reflect that I might have woken up Her Majesty before 6 on a Sunday morning!
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Onbekend
31 October 2015, 15:38
I must say, that I'm slightly disappointed by the outcome of this quiz. The differences between the chassis view and the bodied car are too many to decide that it is the same 20hp chassis. Yes, the dumb irons and the crank handle look similar, but the radiator is totally different: a different geometry of the inner core of the radiator, no filler tube, no bolts on the radiator front, no visible indents on the shoulders of the radiator, and moreover different hub caps. And where do I see this ingenious gear system? Indeed the tiny image on the ad seems to be slightly like the mystery front, but that seems to me too meagre for the average PWC-car enthusiast to solve this quiz (if you would have found it, of course). I tried to find an MMC with this front, but was unsuccessful thusfar. I uploaded a picture of the Elswick I mentioned, and you'll directly understand my confusion. Even now this car looks more like the mystery car than the MMC (although there are differences also in this case and details are partly is hidden in the dark of the image).
I directly believe it to be an MMC, as in the years 1903 to 1905 the changes in appearance of many makes were very rapid: almost by the month, if not by the week. However anyone who wanted to solve this specific mystery would have needed access to this specific issue of The Car Illustrated, or otherwise would have needed at least some hint into the direction of this make.
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