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1936 Matford V8 Cabriolet gevonden in Virginia, V.S.
Neil "The Virginian" vond een Franse Ford V8! Hij schrijft:
Goedendag. Onlangs kwamen we dit oudje tegen en we weten eigenlijk niet goed wat we hebben. Het makkelijke antwoord is dat het een ’36 Matford cabriolet is. De uitdaging is om er informatie over te vinden of over zijn V8-62 familie. Verrassend genoeg is deze Europese versie van de Ford terug opgedoken op Amerikaanse bodem, in Virginia. Voor zover wij begrijpen is hij aan het einde van de oorlog van 1939-45 door een Amerikaanse soldaat verscheept en sindsdien in deze streek gebleven. Verrassend genoeg leverde een telefoontje naar een Ford-museum geen informatie op. De man die de telefoon aannam had nog nooit gehoord van Matford of het verhaal.
De vragen die mogelijk beantwoord kunnen worden zijn:
- Hoeveel zijn er geproduceerd?
- Bestaat er misschien een lijst met aantallen per model?
- Is er een bron voor gebruikte onderdelen?
- De bijna onmogelijke vraag: is er een manier om te weten of er nog andere naar de V.S. zijn verscheept?
Het lijkt onwaarschijnlijk dat Ford er zelf zou hebben geïmporteerd, want dat zou concurrentie zijn geweest voor hun eigen wagens, maar je weet nooit welke informatie boven water kan komen! Eén ding staat vast: deze zal niet tot hotrod worden omgebouwd.
Redactie: Wel, Neil, wij zijn geen Matford-experts, maar we weten wel waar te zoeken. We raden je aan om het Franse Matford Club te raadplegen, dan voel je je in elk geval minder alleen... Ook hebben we wat basisinformatie gevonden, je kunt deze pagina bekijken. En verder zijn we er zeker van dat onze lezers één of twee goede contacten zullen aandragen.
Oorspronkelijk gepubliceerd op 9 december 2015.
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maandag september 1st, 2025
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Guy François PHILIP
01 September 2025, 20:00
paul bestebreurtje
30 Augustus 2025, 14:42
Hallo there,
I'm Dutch, found a car 36 sedan , no horses in the horsebox,
What is the trade naam for engine,
if somebody has one, the engines are used in much other things, industrial, compressor units, army vehicles.
friendly greeting from Rotterdam area
I'm still dealing tyres up to 79y
Do you know traders special and/or ex army sizes? Please contact me via prewarcar.com
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I'm Dutch, found a car 36 sedan , no horses in the horsebox,
What is the trade naam for engine,
if somebody has one, the engines are used in much other things, industrial, compressor units, army vehicles.
friendly greeting from Rotterdam area
I'm still dealing tyres up to 79y
Do you know traders special and/or ex army sizes? Please contact me via prewarcar.com
Laurent Zoller
01 Augustus 2024, 15:33
The Matford company disappeared during the Second World War.
The Mathis S.A. company was reconstituted on September 19th, 1945.
The Simca company was created in 1934.
The Simca company bought Ford France in 1954.
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La société MATFORD disparait pendant la deuxième guerre mondiale.
La société MATHIS SA est reconstituée le 19 septembre 1945.
La société SIMCA fut créée en 1934.
La société SIMCA a racheté FORD France en 1954 .
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The Mathis S.A. company was reconstituted on September 19th, 1945.
The Simca company was created in 1934.
The Simca company bought Ford France in 1954.
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La société MATFORD disparait pendant la deuxième guerre mondiale.
La société MATHIS SA est reconstituée le 19 septembre 1945.
La société SIMCA fut créée en 1934.
La société SIMCA a racheté FORD France en 1954 .
Cordy
01 Augustus 2024, 11:20
I always wondered why the Simca Vedette (or Beaulieu) ended up with a Ford V8 60 engine. I guess the Simca takeover of Matford explains this. Sweet engine!
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Bruno from Belgium
04 Augustus 2018, 01:20
This is a Belgian one,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/134504779@N08/42727290204/in/album-72157697461982031/
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/134504779@N08/42727290204/in/album-72157697461982031/
Rick Wyatt
26 Juli 2018, 17:35
I know it's been a long time since anyone commented on this thread, but I just found it. I also have a Matford. Mine is a 1936 Alsaice, 4dr sedan. I got it from an old friend of mine a couple of years ago and he owned it since 1952. At that time he got it out a junk yard. It's been inside since 52 and is in remarkably good condition. Mine also has had the original V8-60 replaced with a slightly newer V8. It's a 1937 80HP with dual carbs, solid lifters and a mild cam. He said it didn't make it any faster, just louder. I haven't started work on it yet, just interested it any info I can get. Any input or ideas are appreciated.
Thanks
Rick
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Thanks
Rick
Onbekend
12 Juli 2016, 19:31
Having looked again at this matford it may be a 1935. My 1936 has a hood like a 1937.The vin number on mine is 3036.You may get my email address from editor and e mail me. Terry
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Onbekend
10 Juli 2016, 15:45
Hello: I leave in Ohio. I own a 1936 Matford cabriolet. Yours appears to be a roadster.Mine has a back seat and a trunk instead of a rumble seat.The back glass in my top appears to be smaller.I street rodded mine retaining original top bows and rear window size and trim.It is nice to know there is another one in the U.S.Mine was brought over in the early 70s i was told. I bought it in 1996.
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Onbekend
11 December 2015, 23:17
I also can help with Matford info. There were two Matford models sold in france from 1935 until war broke out in 1939. One was manufactured by Mathis and the other was inported from Ford in the USA. Both carried the Matford name, but they are completely different cars. I have seen and driven both and have contacts for you. Email me at [email protected] if you want to learn more.
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Onbekend
11 December 2015, 05:34
Matford, a joint venture between Ford and Mathis, sold cars with the Matford label. One model was produced in France by Mathis. Another was Fords produced in the US and imported. Matfords were sold from about 1935 until war broke out in 1939. Heil's car is the US import version. Email if you want more info on Matford or contacts in France that are well informed about Matfords and own them.
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Neil
10 December 2015, 23:16
I just received clarification on the engine. As stated, it's been replaced. There is a data plate on it that says "remanufactured engine by Simca of Poissy" and a serial number. It also indicates that its an "F59A". A "59A" would be a 1945 Ford (USA) flathead v-8. The F prefix indicates that it was a French produced engine.
Additional pictures will be forthcoming, though I'll have to figure out how to add them as it's not clear.
It's understood that Simca is the successor to Mathis/Matford and that Ford owned 15% for a couple years when Simca assumed possession of the factory in Poissy. Ford subsequently sold the remaining 15%.
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Additional pictures will be forthcoming, though I'll have to figure out how to add them as it's not clear.
It's understood that Simca is the successor to Mathis/Matford and that Ford owned 15% for a couple years when Simca assumed possession of the factory in Poissy. Ford subsequently sold the remaining 15%.
Neil
10 December 2015, 15:34
Thank you very much for the replies, we will be following up on the leads that were provided. I say "we" as the car belongs to my wife's parents and they may post in here discussing it, as well.
Francois, I was unable to view the pic with the webpage saying that it no longer exists
Kit, they have found that it's not the original engine, and I think he said it's a 50's model. I will follow up with some additional photos for conversation.
Arnoud, keen eye! Maybe you will have some other insights with more pictures
Colin, I can't find how to privately message or e-mail you. I will continue looking.
Editor: If you both send your email addresses to office*at*prewarcar.com, we'll make sure you'll get in contact with each other.
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Francois, I was unable to view the pic with the webpage saying that it no longer exists
Kit, they have found that it's not the original engine, and I think he said it's a 50's model. I will follow up with some additional photos for conversation.
Arnoud, keen eye! Maybe you will have some other insights with more pictures
Colin, I can't find how to privately message or e-mail you. I will continue looking.
Editor: If you both send your email addresses to office*at*prewarcar.com, we'll make sure you'll get in contact with each other.
Onbekend
10 December 2015, 08:13
Perhaps the French Mathis Club can help you too. Mathis and Ford = Matford
www.mathis-auto.com
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www.mathis-auto.com
Onbekend
09 December 2015, 20:05
Hello,I can help you with Matford information,Please email me.
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Paul Beauchamp
31 Juli 2024, 18:00
Hi,
I've just seen a post about Matford. I have a 1937 American import, could I ask you some help please?
Thanks.
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I've just seen a post about Matford. I have a 1937 American import, could I ask you some help please?
Thanks.
Onbekend
09 December 2015, 16:12
On the last picture is a tipical French side turnsignal light: the Scintex V51.
I do think these were available as an after-matket product in the US.
these Scintex lights were first produced in 1952 , this makes me believe this car was still in france in the (early) 50's.
So I do not think is was shipped to the USA at the end of WWII.
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I do think these were available as an after-matket product in the US.
these Scintex lights were first produced in 1952 , this makes me believe this car was still in france in the (early) 50's.
So I do not think is was shipped to the USA at the end of WWII.
Onbekend
09 December 2015, 14:29
A Model 62 should have the 2.2 litre "60 hp" engine. Can we see an engine shot, please? That is probably the major deviation from US specification, and it would be interesting to see if there are differences from the US "V8-60" engine that appeared in 1937. Otherwise, many US 1936 parts may fit.
As for production, one would probably need Ford-France (successor to Matford who sold out to Simca) records. Try the CAAPY Museum at Poissy: http://www.caapy.net/
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As for production, one would probably need Ford-France (successor to Matford who sold out to Simca) records. Try the CAAPY Museum at Poissy: http://www.caapy.net/
Onbekend
09 December 2015, 07:56
My dad's first car was a convertible Matford ! A picture is here :http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=914778matfordpapa.jpg
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