Filter

The Rushen Abbey mystery motor

The recent Belgian big tourer mystery proved to be quite an easy one for you. Oh, we should have known that it was a Panhard & Levassor! So here’s another. Once again a big motor car, this one quite a few years earlier. Edwardian it seems. But what characterises this shot is that there’s very little information.

All we know is that the photograph was taken at Rushen Abbey on the Isle of Man. The medieval abbey is on the island’s south side and, according to the tourist office’s website, "People have been drawn here ever since, from the monks who wrote the earliest account of the Isle of Man’s history, to the tea dances of the early 1900s and the heady days of 1980s disco." Today the medieval ruins and its gardens still attract visitors.

So, back to the photograph. We see a lady and a man who may have been there for a tea dance. It could be considered remarkable that she’s seen behind the wheel while he's seated in the back. He also seems to be too well dressed to be driving. A little posing just for the picture then? We'd love to hear from you.

 

Words by Jeroen Booij. Picture courtesy of Manx National Heritage.

 

Gepubliceerd:
maandag oktober 4th, 2021
Tony Press
06 October 2021, 05:03
My Grandfather Fred Press who ran a Motor Garage in Fore Street Chard up to 1910 told me that the Sprag Brake usually threw the car into the ditch !
A fairly drastic way to stop a runaway car :-)
Lees verder
Alan Brookman
05 October 2021, 16:10
For what it's worth, the photo appears to have been taken outside the Rushen Abbey Hotel, which is now The Abbey Restaurant. The building is much the same albeit with a stucco finish over the stonework. The structure was built in 1765, became a school for young ladies in 1847, and a country house hotel around 1866.
Lees verder
David GREEN
05 October 2021, 15:04
I am attaching a slightly older photograph of Rushen Abbey Hotel than the one with the Mors in front of it. The hotel was well-known for its gardens, and the management subsequently developed wildly popular tea dances ( 'thés dansants'). I suggest the management kept the Mors, complete with chauffeuse, for running guests to Ballasalla station, or possibly Douglas (about 10km away). Note in the full photograph a partially cut off chambermaid leaning out of the left upper window. The hotel still exists although sadly it is more commercialised. The front garden is now tarmac.
Lees verder
David Grimstead
05 October 2021, 15:03
If perhaps this Mors model could have been on the I.o.M. in 1905, when reportedly “the number of cars owned by islanders could be counted on the fingers of one hand”, there can’t have been many local woman members of the Manx Automobile Club. However, that year saw influxes of private car drivers attending the Gordon Bennett elimination trials in late May and for the T.T. mid September, over 60 at the former, including one well-known competitive chauffeuse: Miss Victoria Godwin. From the photograph, doubt it’s her but this was reported in June 1905:

“During eliminating trials in the Isle of Man, Miss Godwin, by request of the English Automobile Club, drove the Speaker of the House of Keys to the meet. There had been a law recently passed in the Isle of Man limiting the ordinary road speed to 14 miles an hour. Miss Godwin is suspected of having, to the evident, but unconscious delight of her passenger, permitted her car on that occasion to do its best.”

The Speaker at the time was the bearded Arthur William Moore, so probably not him pictured either but whoever, unconsciously delighting in speed or not, he needed to be a back-seat-driver as when Godwin was stopped driving Harvey du Cros’s car at 50m.p.h. on the Coventry-road in 1906, he got fined, being considered the person really in control of the car – take that Suffragettes! More sympathetically when she was stopped speeding in London, the policeman accepted that she had speeded up to get rid of a mosquito she claimed was biting her neck – just, he said no doubt with a smirk, what he would have done.

Godwin often drove a 40-H.P. Ariel-Simplex but also Spyker, Daimler and Mercedes, and who knows, possibly a muddy Mors.
Lees verder
David Grimstead
08 October 2021, 11:55
And another famous chauffeuse was due to appear in the I.o.M. Tourist Trophy in September 1905 driving a 12-h.p Mors: Dorothy Levitt – a bit of a come-down for her after a record breaking appearance in July on an 80-h.p. Napier.

From pre-T.T. reports: “No.51 - L. Carle, 12-h.p. Mors, Miss Dorothy Levitt... Levitt again changes her affection, and will this time have charge of the 12-h.p. Mors entered by Mr. Louis Carle... There are only a dozen foreign-built cars in the race. Of these the Mors entered by Mr. Louis Carle, who was formerly secretary to M. Henri Deutsch, of Aero prize fame, will probably be driven by Miss Dorothy Levitt."

If she went, she didn’t get to race; 14th September 1905: “Louis Carle’s 12 horse Mors, which was to have been driven by Miss Dorothy Levitt, has not yet turned up, and so, of course, will not be allowed to compete to-day.” It was alleged that Napier salesman S.F. Edge, whose secretary/P.A. and some-said paramour Levitt had been, engineered her exclusion; Carle was MD of Mors Ltd in London. Can’t say this is her and it doesn’t look like Carle in the back.
Lees verder
Nick Simpson
04 October 2021, 12:22
An interesting scene…. The car has neither windscreen or hood; unusual and uncomfortable for the occupants on all but the shortest trips. The guy in the back has a car-rug.

The rear of the body could be detachable so maybe the car was dual-purpose and doubled as a sports/racer like the Collings Mercedes 60 HP? As there are no spare wheels in view these would perhaps have been stacked on the rear deck when the back of the body was removed?

Perhaps the rear body had been fitted for domestic use such as trips to the railway station to fetch Le Monsieur on a winter day? Just look at the mud all over the car and particularly the rear wheels….

An interesting point – is the rod hanging down under the car a ‘sprag’ or ‘hill-holder’ operated from the handbrake?
Lees verder
Ariejan Bos
04 October 2021, 13:02
About the sprag: no, the sprag was held up by a cable attached to a ring, which could be fastened somewhere just below the driver's seat. Old-fashioned manual operation! The cable is visible halfway the sprag and disappears behind the woman's coat.
Lees verder
Mike Clark
04 October 2021, 10:15
Is it too late to tell them thay have a flat tyre?
Lees verder
Ariejan Bos
04 October 2021, 09:36
Fully agree with Craig. No radiator filler cap, the despite the photo quality still visible pins at both ends of the bonnet top, so undeniably a Mors. Possibly the 24-32hp model of 1907, or maybe even larger.
Lees verder
C.Gillingham
04 October 2021, 08:07
I think this is a Mors, about 1907? The steering wheel, wheel hubs, and radiator match.
Lees verder
Tony Press
04 October 2021, 06:51
Is she a chauffeuse ?
Lees verder

Plaats een reactie, stel een vraag, geef uw mening, deel aanvullende informatie of start een discussie door de onderstaande velden in te vullen


Login om uw reactie direct te plaatsen

Afbeeldingen toevoegen aan uw reactie