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Is it a Derby Mystery? (upd. post 1950 photo of Derby-BMW Special)

by Ron King: I attach a photograph, taken by a friend, in the 1950's of what I think is a very much modified 1928 Derby, possibly for racing, as one can see the traces on the original photo of what looks like painted on racing number in front of the outside handbrake and airpump, both in themselves I would think modifications. The rear springs look lowered by the expedient of fitting angled wedges under the mountings and of course the lack of front wings. Those on the back look more like driver elbow protection than anything else. What the oversize P100's did to the frontal area and speed one hesitates to think. I only know it is a Derby of 1928 because that is what is written on the back of the photo it would be nice to know if anyone remembers this car and could say more about it and if it still exists. (>>> Read More).

editor: we need to be convinced that it is a Derby. It is closer to a La Perle and the radiator cowl looks BNC-ish. Yet maybe it's a parts collection on a Derby chassis, who knows.

UPDATE by Mike Tebbett who confirms the car being a Deerby Special, moreover the car still exists! See  elaborate comments and check this specific page plus a more recent photo.

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woensdag mei 16th, 2012
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18 November 2012, 21:39
This car belonged to an engineer who worked for Peco exhausts at Birkenhead.
The photo was taken there I believe.
My pal Nick Mayman was a friend of this man's son & he acquired the car together with an MG 6cylinder engine. Lots of parts of the car did not work & the MG was too tall for the way the body had been lowered.
I had the car from Nick & I sold it to Phil White (in about 1985), who also had a Derby with Ford V8 engine. The axles were Lea Francis. I wondered if it was Amilcar & not Derby as Nick also had an Amilcar chassis plate which came amongst many bits & pieces with the car.Reg was WE3431.
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19 Mei 2012, 00:43
Scintilla Vertex magneto surely?

Tony.
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17 Mei 2012, 07:12
The dog must be called Alf. That's because we can only 'alf of 'im.
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17 Mei 2012, 04:04
Good Morning All.... this is, I am pretty sure, the much modified Derby later owned by Phil White of Warwick. See -http://www.whiteracing.co.uk/Vernon_test.html - In the form shown in the photo the body had been cut right down and the front and rear axles were from a Lea-Francis. It was engine less when Phil acquired it, and indeed we think that an engine had never been fitted with the car in this form, indeed it was virtually impossible to actually get into the car! I helped Phil by finding some parts for the car including a Chapuis-Dormier engine. However, sadly Phil died before he could start the rebuild and the remains were bought by Roger Hart who made a superb job of the rebuild, fitting it with a 1500cc six-cylinder BMW engine. Roger has competed at VSCC Prescott with the car. This is not to be confused with the other Vernon-Derby owned by Phil that has a Ford V8 engine (yes, really!)
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17 Mei 2012, 01:39
I may be quite wrong but are those wheels centre lock or are they Austin Seven?
They don't look like the original Derby wheels.

Tony.
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17 Mei 2012, 00:44
The original registration of the Triumph (HFY194) was issued by London C.C. in 1951, according to the "When was it issued?" page on http://www.numberplates.com/
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