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A low bonnet Mystery ( update: Crossley RAF staff car)


Jaap 'Molsheim' Horst sends this fine photo which came to him from an enthusiast who was thinking (or hoping?) this could be a Bugatti. Well one thing is sure it's not a brainchild from Ettore Bugatti.  Maybe it is french...? Maybe we're looking at a fine set of Bleriot headlights. Maybe Dealunay Belleville, or even Turcat Mery? Yet it is hard to say, there's so little to see. We can only hope that the low bonnet line, the charcteristic louvres and the sheer size of the machine prompt an Aha!  with one or more of you. 

(picture courtesy Jaap Horst)

 

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woensdag oktober 22nd, 2014
william hearne
24 October 2014, 06:40
[quote name="Peter Dew"]10,000 built and people still don't recognise it. Amazing ![/quote]

Even more amazing to hear that of that huge number built according to the register only two survive. [See first comments by Nick Wright and the attachment].
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Onbekend
23 October 2014, 21:45
Have a look at
Previous Feature
The Slough Estates Railway
27/2/2012
http://www.prewarcar.com/magazine/previous-features/the-slough-estates-railway-017092.html
To see plenty
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Onbekend
23 October 2014, 14:53
10,000 built and people still don't recognise it. Amazing !
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Onbekend
23 October 2014, 11:38
Recent image
https://www.flickr.com/photos/westernfrontassociation/14040695123/
Important in the light of the Crossley's subsequent history was the purchase of a batch of six 20 hp Crossleys by the War Office in March 1913 for the Royal Flying Corps: a total of 89 were in service with the RFC by January 1914, and when war broke out, the Crossley was adopted as the standard RFC staff car. With standard twin rear wheels it also served as a light truck, a tender or an ambulance with estimated total of 10,000 built.

The RFC Crossleys were among the first motor cars to see service when war broke out in August 1914, a good number were sent with the Allied Expeditionary Force to France, where two were allocated to each scouting RFC aircraft with the difficult task of following its movements, ready to give assistance should a forced landing be made.
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Onbekend
23 October 2014, 11:17
I can confirm this is a RFC Crossley 20/25 staff car c.1914
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Onbekend
23 October 2014, 10:30
Its a Crossley. Looking at the officer's cap badge this photo will have been taken after April 1918 when the RAF was founded. I think you can make out the double rear wheels.

If you look carefully you'll notice the tent in the background is propped up with parts of an aircraft frame!
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william hearne
23 October 2014, 09:50
I would say most definitely a Crossley Staff Car. Just look at the occupants alone. The officer it positively British.
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Onbekend
23 October 2014, 08:41
Crossley RFC staff car, no?

Check >>> http://www.crossley-motors.org.uk/Gallery/today20_25/RFC.html
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