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Raadselachtige Carrosserie op Talbot 18/55 uit 1925
Het onderzoek richt zich op een Talbot 18/55 uit 1925 (in wezen een herbadgede Sunbeam 16/50) in West-Australië. De wagen heeft een saloon-carrosserie waarvan de carrosseriebouwer tot nu toe onbekend blijft. Uit de archieven van Talbot blijkt dat hij in 1925 voor export werd verkocht als een Darracq-tourer, en vermoedelijk rond 1930–1932 in Australië opnieuw van een carrosserie werd voorzien.
De foto’s tonen een mix van hoe ik de auto voor het eerst zag in 1965 en hoe hij er enkele dagen geleden weer uitzag—in een donkere schuur. De buitendeurgrepen, raamopeningen en voorruitstijlen zijn heel kenmerkend en zouden een expert de juiste aanwijzingen kunnen geven. De deuren zijn van hout gemaakt, dus vermoedelijk geldt dat voor de hele carrosserie.
Reacties zijn welkom.
Tekst en foto’s: Peter Ransom
Deze vraag verscheen oorspronkelijk op 20 juni 2015
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vrijdag augustus 29th, 2025
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Michael Ognenis
29 Augustus 2025, 00:19
This looks to be the same car. It's been sitting for about 15 years or so and still starts on the button and drives! And yes, it's in Western Australia. Please comment if you need to get in touch.
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Onbekend
22 Juni 2015, 23:37
No problems Peter, I will try and replicate your pics
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22 Juni 2015, 22:59
R Mawer... I too hope the Darracq tourer body finds a bare chassis, this Sunbeam saloon is far to nice for any anatomical swaps...I have no idea which Roesch Talbot chassis ditched this tourer body to make yet another Brooklands lookalike....
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22 Juni 2015, 12:14
Will do Peter, I will try and replicate several of your pics
Cheers
Lance
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Cheers
Lance
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22 Juni 2015, 09:30
What a very attractive, well-balanced car !
I do hope the owner will not be tempted to rebody it with the Darracq tourer body offered-there will be quite a few "utes" or bare chassis around (not necessarily Sunbeams or Talbots ) crying out to make a better use for this. I wonder what happened to the car that originally had this tourer body on it ?
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I do hope the owner will not be tempted to rebody it with the Darracq tourer body offered-there will be quite a few "utes" or bare chassis around (not necessarily Sunbeams or Talbots ) crying out to make a better use for this. I wonder what happened to the car that originally had this tourer body on it ?
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22 Juni 2015, 01:49
Lance, could you post a picture or two of your Lancia, please?
Michael, it's not my car. I'm just doing the research.
Nick, yes, they went a bit overboard with the visor but it's a good idea, especially as the windscreen doesn't open (sort of balances out, doesn't it?).
Neil, do you mean a boot's been added or is "rebooted" a term for rebodied? I'm from Queensland - we know nothing up here...
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Michael, it's not my car. I'm just doing the research.
Nick, yes, they went a bit overboard with the visor but it's a good idea, especially as the windscreen doesn't open (sort of balances out, doesn't it?).
Neil, do you mean a boot's been added or is "rebooted" a term for rebodied? I'm from Queensland - we know nothing up here...
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21 Juni 2015, 09:55
Martin and King is a possibility, they did a lot of european stuff in the period. Though Australia had numerous local body builders due to a tax anomaly that meant it was cheaper to body cars locally than import them. This body seems to have similarities to this car http://www.grahampaigeaustralia.com/Images/slope_front_612_sedan_2.jpg
That is a rebooted 1929 Graham Paige. We have found 5 or six of these over the years, we initially assumed they were customised, but the more we found we have come to the conclusion that they were either unsold cars that were rebooted in the early 30s to update them, or maybe they owners couldn't afford a new car so went the cheap option. We still don't know who did these bodies either
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That is a rebooted 1929 Graham Paige. We have found 5 or six of these over the years, we initially assumed they were customised, but the more we found we have come to the conclusion that they were either unsold cars that were rebooted in the early 30s to update them, or maybe they owners couldn't afford a new car so went the cheap option. We still don't know who did these bodies either
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21 Juni 2015, 08:12
Some of the external beading features say Martin & King to me - having viewed some Alvises using their coachwork. The general shape is a copy of the English Austins of the early to mid Thirties era. M & K often took their styling from the English makers with minor adaptions for the local market; hence the deep visor over the screen for sunny climates!
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21 Juni 2015, 05:19
I can't help with ID, Peter... but I do have a Darracq tourer body of the period, happy to make it available if you feel a touring body would be a worthwhile option for some future restorer...
I'll run an advert under parts.
Mike
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I'll run an advert under parts.
Mike
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21 Juni 2015, 00:20
It looks very similar to a Martin and KIng body I have on a Lancia Artena circa 1932
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