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Swedish barnfind: 6-cylinder(!) Brasier Torpedo


Report by Per Westerberg who found an undated 6 cylinder torpedo bodied Brasier and is looking for information:
"In december at a Monday evening meeting of the AHK (Automobilhistoriska Klubben), I had a chat with a fellow member I never met before. I told him I´m deep into older cars before 1925. He said: “I have a Brasier that I´ve been thinking of selling”, and I almost fell off the chair. He bought it in Sweden in 1963, had it dismantled and boxed, and never came to work on it. Basically, the engine and transmission, axles etc were in the basement of his house, whereas the chassis and body were in the barn of his farm north of Stockholm. Not surprisingly - after thorough inspection - I was very happy to purchase the car in June this year, and with the help of four fellow enthusiasts it was transported to my garage. Much to my surprise, the article on the Berliet torpedo body appeared a little earlier the same week!

With the car I got a color photograph showing what was said to be a 6-cylinder car from around 1909-13 (see engine in current condition; see chassis in recent cleaned condition and finally check mock-up of the car in Per's garage). The car is thought to have spent all of its life in Sweden, possibly having been requisitioned for some time by the swedish army during WW1. Possibly the body is of later date like the Berliet-type like showed on PreWarCar, with the addition of a built-in (german style) slot for the cab, around the back seat."  (editor: at this point Per is not sure to keep this body or to go back to a more formal touring body) ....continue... at  Read More )

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zaterdag oktober 26th, 2013
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30 October 2013, 02:51
You are absolutely right... thats what I get for writing at 2AM. Good catch. Interestingly, the instruments on a friends 1910 chain drive Alco are marked Berliet... and the car itself was sometimes referred to at an "American Berliet".
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29 October 2013, 08:46
Hello,

This model is a Brasier CH, 24cv made between 1911 and 1912.
I found this information in "Le catalogue des Catalogues"
They give the range of the serial number of this car:
1 to 51 !! (only 51 made ?)

Mathieu
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28 October 2013, 18:55
Oh and I forgot to add PLEASE keep the body that is on the car as it's part of the cars history and much better to have a 'period' one, than to have yet another reproduction.

Andy
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28 October 2013, 18:47
Alcos were indeed Berliet's built under licence.

The Bosch DU6 would almost certainly have been the European type. The American ones were made of cheaper materials with aluminium bases and ends rather than the brass used in Europe. They both work the same though. You'll need to work out what rotation the magneto goes at the drive end (clockwise or anticlock), and whether it had a taper drive shaft or parallel shaft

Regards Andy
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28 October 2013, 04:37
Wow... what a fantastic find.
I wonder how similar this car is to the American ALCO, built at the same time under a license from Brasier, albeit the only two such cars I am familiar with have engines that I suspect are somewhat larger.

Editor: Joe I wonder if you mix up Brasier with Berliet which was using the same logo as ALCO..?
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