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Russo Baltique found to be an Austin! (update: 1910 Austin (UK) 40 HP)


For a long time it was believed that the car in these pictures is a Russo-Baltique. This famous brand of Russia showed its strengths in various competitions, racings, mountain climbing up mount Vesuvius in Italy and in the 1912 Monaco rally 1912.  French inventor Adolphe Кegresse, who lived in Russia for a long time, designed the driveline for the Russo-Baltique. Interstingly only recently was found that the photo shows an English Austin, presumably -  a 50HP model ( editor: the US made Austin we suppose...?). This discovery was made possible through co-authors from Russia and Germany. Who can add to this intriguing story?     

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dinsdag augustus 13th, 2013
R.Mawer
25 Augustus 2013, 21:38
Hmm.-no,I admit I didnt click the link "conceptcars.com",but now I have done-this "Austin" in America is a bit of a puzzle.I have looked at the strange front axle beam,forward-facing steering arms & trackrod,the simple (but neat)way the radiator casing has been made & am wondering if this is a "concept car",maybe not all that old, & not a British Austin.They didnt use to put the cars make down at the bottom of the radiator like it has been done here,surely?
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16 Augustus 2013, 03:54
In 1955 my father was working for Austin Motor Company Ltd and in the year they celebrated 50 years of existence. I have the booklets that were produced then and given to their employees. In 1913 they were producing a Landaulet car with a 50 hp 6 cylinder engine. There is also a reference to 50 hp models being produced in 1910.
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16 Augustus 2013, 03:48
About the fact that not visible emblem of Austin. By car used (probably for the first time in the world!!) winter camouflage - white. Therefore, the emblem not see very well..but visible.
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16 Augustus 2013, 03:42
Photo dates back to the year 1916. And of course on the photo - winter (bears only visible))). Car belongs to the sanitary detachment named heir to the throne Cesarevitch Alexey. The detachment besides ENGLISH Austin 50HP included two Renault, as well as two car yet unknown. All vehicles were equipped with thrusters Adolf Kegresse. Chassis these cars Austin used for the construction of armored vehicles for the Russian army.
Absolutely right Tony Press, claiming that with the beginning of the Great war Britain supplied Russia with a lot of different cars, including brand Аustin.
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R.Mawer
15 Augustus 2013, 08:36
The only US made Austin I have heard of was the 750cc Austin 7.This was built under licence there,& called the Bantam.(It wasnt a great success,though-too small!)

Obviously you did not click the link in the article:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/338446,12012/1909-American-Austin-Model-60_photo.aspx#photo
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14 Augustus 2013, 12:01
I'm really surprised that it took such a long time to identify this car as an (of course) British Austin. Austin was not unfamiliar with Russia. A quick glance in my "Lord Austin - the man" by Lambert & Wyatt reveals the following on p.98: "By 1910 the Austin 40hp car had proved to be such a success that it was decided to enter one in the Russian International Tour." The route was from St. Petersburg to Moscow, the start was in June and the driver was Harold Kendall. Of the 46 starters "only about half-a-dozen were able to complete the course without mechanical failures." The Austin was of course one of these, bringing home the St. Petersburg Automobile Club Trophy. I doubt if this Austin was the car in the PWC photo series, because the special drive system is not mentioned. Also snow in June in Russia seems to be rather unusual to me. But maybe this success was an inspiration for future experiments on Russian soil?
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14 Augustus 2013, 03:48
No, not the US made Austin. The radiator,bonnet, lamps and scuttle all clearly indicate an English Austin.
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14 Augustus 2013, 03:08
Could well be an English Austin. Austin Motor Company supplied a large order for 2-3 ton trucks, 20 hp tourers and 30 hp cars to the Imperial Russian Army during the 1914-18 war. The radiator shape looks familiar but I can't see the Austin winged wheel badge.

Tony.
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