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The Young Fighter Pilot Mystery Upd. Oakland from Auckland)

It's a good thing we can't look into the future as cute family snapshots like this one can take on a whole new meaning. It was sent to us by John Munro who tells us that the picture comes from an old family album and was probably taken early in the 1920s in or near Auckland, New Zealand. John also tells us that the little boy standing pround on the running board became a fighter pilot and was killed in the war. Of course the car is long gone and engine and chassis numbers are unknown. The only thing that remains is the registration number A-8558. John is very keen to find out the date of the picture; what make the car is, and anything else we can come up with. PS We don't quite knowwhat to make of the radiator cap. At first glance it could be some strange looking ornament, but on the other hand it could also be some kind of a pole in the field behind the car.

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donderdag augustus 2nd, 2012
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08 Augustus 2012, 23:27
Of interest maybe,almost finished restoring a 1917 Oakland Model 34 that has spent its entire life in Auckland or thereabouts,know the owners from the 60's on only,have chassis and body numbers.
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05 Augustus 2012, 00:51
My eyesight is not good enough to pick the differences in the wheel clamps. If it is 1917 it is a model 34, visually very similar to the later 34B. I have a copy of the Master Parts Book for Oakland and Pontiac covering 1916 to 1932 (covering Model 32 though to the last of the V8s) but unfortunately it does not have a listing for the clamps for the Model 34.
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04 Augustus 2012, 09:38
Lovely photo of the young fate-cursed fellow. Note also the nice posy of flowers attached to the spokes of the steering wheel.
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03 Augustus 2012, 15:33
In 1918 the triangular Baker brand wheel lugs on this car were replaced with Jaxon brand which are a very smooth almost half round curve around the nut away from the rim.
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03 Augustus 2012, 08:56
OK, some have dated the car as 1917-'20 Oakland. I can't comment on this. The registration plates were issued by the Auckland County Council.New Zealand never got centralised, government issued plates until 1925. Prior to this registration was done by local councils and some central government departments issued plates for departmental use. The council plates were in many instances issued to the vehicle owner rather than the vehicle and could be moved from vehicle to vehicle as the owner changed vehicles. The photo couldn't have been taken later than June 1925 and as the owner and other commentators suggests is probably late 'teens or early 'twenties.
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03 Augustus 2012, 08:40
The number plate is interesting as it is the forerunner of the pressed plates with a brass frame and wire mesh inside the frame. 'A' of course stands for Auckland.
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Stuart Penketh
03 Augustus 2012, 06:03
There certainly appears to be a fence post there. The horizontal wires are quite definite.
As to the lower conical structure, this has all the looks of a Flag, the country though is a mystery to me.
It seems to be 3 horizontal stripes with star(s) in the middle one
Stuart
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03 Augustus 2012, 04:44
The mascot would appear to be a rather fetching young lady,what rises above her is a fence post.
Graham.
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03 Augustus 2012, 02:50
It is a circa 1918 - or maybe 1919 or 1920, they were much the same - Oakland Model 34B. I think it is coincidence that there is both an ornamebnt on the radiator and there is fence post lined up in the background.
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02 Augustus 2012, 23:51
1917 Oakland
You are on your own with the radiator cap!
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