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Tons of snow? Drive a Millot ! (UPDATE IV: grandson Benoit Millot)


Heavy snow all over NW Europe makes that many events - see VSCC's Brooklands meeting - must be rescheduled. There's also good news, like this first strong candidate for our 2011 (!) calender. Mr & Mrs Stefan Feller live near Bad Schandau, not too far form Dresden and the Czech border. They were keen to let out their undated (1900... something) Millot. As a serious motorcar enthusiast Mrs. Feller first gave a thorough check of the engine. And of course did refuel the lights. Photos by Stefan Feller. Do you know how to date a Millot? Let us know!
UPDATE III by Malcolm Jeal:"Millot, of Gray, Haute-Saône, began making stationary engines around 1894 (these being horizontal units) and introduced similar but vertical engines from around 1901/2, using variously paraffin, petrol, alcohol and gas as fuels. The single-cylinder engines were produced in sizes from 1 to 12cv and the two-cyclinder versions from 2 to 25cv. These engines were supplied for a wide variety of uses: agricultural applications of all sorts, electricty generation, fire-pumps, forestry work, marine activites, and so on. By 1908 Millot claimed that they had made over 4,200 such engines.
In connection with the forestry work, Millot made horse-drawn mobile saw benches of both circular and band saw pattern, powered by their stationary engines. In due course these were also offered in 'automobile' (self-moving) form by the application of a basic two-speed and reverse transmission system.
I have a 1908 Millot Sales Brochure and this shows a wide variety of these mobile saw benches, both horse-drawn and self-moving, with speeds of 4-6 kph being quoted for the latter. Such machines continued to be made at least up until the Great War, and probably afterwards as well.
The vehicle you show is a lightweight band-saw (Scie à Ruban automobile - attached picture 3) from which the saw mechanisim has been removed. A number of such machines surfaced in the 1960's and were converted into 'motorcars', which as I trust the above indicates, they never were. Millot did sell motorcars under their own name in the 1901-2 period, but whether they actally made these remains an open question.
UPDATE II by Thomas Rudolf: "it is a two-cylinders, 6 or 8 HP, if it is factory built car. Year 1900. If it is a one-cylinder 9HP it is only a mobile saw for the wood. Year 1900. One 12HP was built in in 1901 + one 8HP in 1902. "
UPDATE I came in from Stuart Penketh: "this is one of the first of their vehicles of 1900. Millot was a former French manufacturer of automobiles, who was active between 1900 and 1902. The Millot brothers owned a company that manufactured mobile chainsaws. Then started in 1900 to produce automobiles. The first model 6 / 8 CV had a two-cylinder engine, which was arranged horizontally, to the rear wheels via chain drive. There followed the four-cylinder Model 12 CV with tonneau style body. In 1902,the four-cylinder model 8 CV, and the single-cylinder model 9 CV were produced. In 1902 the production of automobiles ceased."

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vrijdag januari 8th, 2010
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08 November 2015, 18:28
The vehicle shown above is fitted with small 8 tooth driving sprockets, whereas my 1900 Millot car has 14 tooth sprockets making it much faster. As well as the 8 tooth ones, there were also 12 tooth sprockets.
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08 November 2015, 18:17
Unusually, this vehicle lacks the rear mounted radiator. The engine cooling water is circulated through a long cylindrical tank extending fore and aft beneath the floor boards between the seats.

On my 1900 Millot car the tank is there, but is not connected to the engine.
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07 November 2015, 17:56
Both the 1898 Millot and my own 1900 Millot, both of which are referred to on another thread, are genuine cars and not converted saw benches.
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14 Februari 2012, 21:51
hello benoit i have a scie ruban which i have now restored and also it was running ok but now seem to have a starting problem do you know where i can find an engine info book for the 10hp vertical lamp start engine kind regards tony
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27 Mei 2011, 10:56
Hello,

It is really ironic, funny, paradoxical (and heartening) to learn more about the Millot cars manufactured by my grand father Benoit Millot from googling and finding these comments than from digging in family documents (very few indeed), as a matter of fact). I wish one day I can visit the Fellers and drive a Millot!

Cheers!

Benoit Millot
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