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What is it? Quiz #409
This week's quiz car was made in England in 1913, but it could also be a 1912 model. It was advertised as a cyclecar and we can share with you a picture of the chassis.
There were at least two foreign cars made with the same name, and 'our' manufacturer also produced a car with a very different layout.
The more details you can give us about the car shown, the more likely you are to win. We now ask you to please log in here before posting your answers to the quiz (up to 700 spam comments per day have become intolerable, but we are working on a solution).
Post your answer before Monday December 7th and you may become the winner of this week's pre-war Quiz and will get the infamous PreWarCar T-shirt. Be careful though, check the Rules under 'Read More' first. Results and source of photo will be published next Saturday, December 12th. Enjoy the weekend!
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vrijdag december 4th, 2015
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Leon Mitchell
07 December 2015, 01:16
1913 Premier Cycle Car, Premier Cycle Co., Ltd. Coventry
Springing: Front half elliptic. Rear axle bolts solidly to underside of tubular chassis, quarter elliptics are clamped to plates on top of chassis. Body is hinged at the front, and attached to free end of springs at rear. Remove two bolts and body can be removed complete with steering wheel, rear guards, tool box and dash board.
Unseen is deep tubular truss below main chassis. Worm and segment steering.
Engine: Premier 8 hp (elsewhere quoted 7-9), 50 degree V twin air cooled, 85x88, 988cc., Bosch magneto, Lukin ‘ortho-metric’ carburettor (on your illustration I think – Rankin Kennedy shows Brown & Barlow)
Transmission: Chain to 2-speed gear, with 6-spring leather-on-metal clutch, chain to rear didifferential
Brakes: Rear internal expanding (hand), external contracting on transmission (foot)
Dimensions: Track 4’, Wheelbase 6’6”, Clearance 9”, Weight 5 ½ cwt (280 kg)
Wheels: 650x65 voiturette
References: Rankin Kennedy, The Motor Cycle 6 February 1914, The Cyclecar Manual
Leon Mitchell, South Australia
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Springing: Front half elliptic. Rear axle bolts solidly to underside of tubular chassis, quarter elliptics are clamped to plates on top of chassis. Body is hinged at the front, and attached to free end of springs at rear. Remove two bolts and body can be removed complete with steering wheel, rear guards, tool box and dash board.
Unseen is deep tubular truss below main chassis. Worm and segment steering.
Engine: Premier 8 hp (elsewhere quoted 7-9), 50 degree V twin air cooled, 85x88, 988cc., Bosch magneto, Lukin ‘ortho-metric’ carburettor (on your illustration I think – Rankin Kennedy shows Brown & Barlow)
Transmission: Chain to 2-speed gear, with 6-spring leather-on-metal clutch, chain to rear didifferential
Brakes: Rear internal expanding (hand), external contracting on transmission (foot)
Dimensions: Track 4’, Wheelbase 6’6”, Clearance 9”, Weight 5 ½ cwt (280 kg)
Wheels: 650x65 voiturette
References: Rankin Kennedy, The Motor Cycle 6 February 1914, The Cyclecar Manual
Leon Mitchell, South Australia
[email protected]
LUC RYCKAERT
06 December 2015, 18:28
Hello, this weeks quiz car is the Premier Cycle Car, constructed by the Premier Cycle Company in Coventry. Launched in 1912 for 100 guineas with "All the comforts of the motor car at the cost of motor cycling" Engine was 998cc 50° side valve V-twin with Bosch high tension magneto, two speed and reverse gearbox with leather cone clutch. Last summer, one with Welsch origin was offered for sale on Ebay and changed hands for 13250 Euros.
Regards,
Luc Ryckaert, 2 times former winner
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Regards,
Luc Ryckaert, 2 times former winner
Graeme Jarrett
06 December 2015, 12:46
Dear Editor,
The Mystery car in What is it(?) Quiz No 409 is a PREMIER Cyclecar. They were built in the years 1912 and 1913 in Coventry, England. Price for a complete car was 100 Guineas - without hood and windscreen.
Power came from a proprietary air-cooled vee-twin engine of approximately 998cc. At least one vehicle is known to survive. The chassis components appear to have been sourced from Chater Lea (UK) and also From The Merlin Cyclecar company (also UK).
At least one of these vehicles is known to survive. This was offered in recent years out of Germany(?).
Regards Graeme Jarrett (Australia)
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The Mystery car in What is it(?) Quiz No 409 is a PREMIER Cyclecar. They were built in the years 1912 and 1913 in Coventry, England. Price for a complete car was 100 Guineas - without hood and windscreen.
Power came from a proprietary air-cooled vee-twin engine of approximately 998cc. At least one vehicle is known to survive. The chassis components appear to have been sourced from Chater Lea (UK) and also From The Merlin Cyclecar company (also UK).
At least one of these vehicles is known to survive. This was offered in recent years out of Germany(?).
Regards Graeme Jarrett (Australia)
Barbault Dominique
05 December 2015, 08:47
I Think it is a PREMIER Cycles Car build at Coventry in 1912.
The price was 100 guineas !!
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The price was 100 guineas !!